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	<description>Tips and Commentary on Accessibility (and not always on topic.)</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/08/lack-of-access-barrier-to-access/#comment-23895</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe you are right, everyone has an opinion on a full range of subjects from on site SEO to usability. My own opinion is to constantly work on improving conversion ratios.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe you are right, everyone has an opinion on a full range of subjects from on site SEO to usability. My own opinion is to constantly work on improving conversion&nbsp;ratios.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Dolson</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/08/lack-of-access-barrier-to-access/#comment-23613</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Dolson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Differentiating between the things that matter and the things which don't in web accessibility takes  pretty careful attention to the practical, end-user experience. 

There are definitely those who seize upon minor issues and turn them into major ones --- but the only people who's opinions really matter, ultimately, are those who will &lt;em&gt;use&lt;/em&gt; your site. 

When in doubt: ask the visitors!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Differentiating between the things that matter and the things which don&#8217;t in web accessibility takes  pretty careful attention to the practical, end-user experience. </p>
<p>There are definitely those who seize upon minor issues and turn them into major ones&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;- but the only people who&#8217;s opinions really matter, ultimately, are those who will <em>use</em> your site. </p>
<p>When in doubt: ask the&nbsp;visitors!</p>
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		<title>By: Black Spot</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/08/lack-of-access-barrier-to-access/#comment-23611</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Spot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main problem I've found in trying to make my website is the nitpicking of silly things that don't matter. I've finally got my index page validated for css and html for strict, and then I started looking at accessibility. So far I'm only an A and if I want to move further along to AAA I might have to ask for help, which fills me with dread as I've used css to table style my page and I got knocked down the last time I asked.
 
This is where the main problem lies, where style becomes more important than content, and that little people trying to build a silly, personal site are made to feel small before they've got their first page even up. I'm not going to give up, even if it takes a bit of time, because I think it's worth the effort (even for a private site) to make it as accessible as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main problem I&#8217;ve found in trying to make my website is the nitpicking of silly things that don&#8217;t matter. I&#8217;ve finally got my index page validated for <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</acronym> and <acronym title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</acronym> for strict, and then I started looking at accessibility. So far I&#8217;m only an A and if I want to move further along to AAA I might have to ask for help, which fills me with dread as I&#8217;ve used <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</acronym> to table style my page and I got knocked down the last time I asked.</p>
<p>This is where the main problem lies, where style becomes more important than content, and that little people trying to build a silly, personal site are made to feel small before they&#8217;ve got their first page even up. I&#8217;m not going to give up, even if it takes a bit of time, because I think it&#8217;s worth the effort (even for a private site) to make it as accessible as&nbsp;possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Dolson</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/08/lack-of-access-barrier-to-access/#comment-21739</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Dolson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if you'll re-read the earlier posts in the &lt;a href="http://www.cre8asiteforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=54670&#038;hl="&gt;Cre8asiteforums thread on that topic&lt;/a&gt;, you'll very quickly see my opinion on the issue...

On the other question --- most designers are focused on &lt;em&gt;design&lt;/em&gt;. When it comes right down to it, they aren't thinking about these issues or they don't care. I don't think it has as much to do with intent as it does with ignorance. 

As much as web standards and accessibility have a much higher profile now than they did in the earlier days of the Internet, it's still a relatively small area of the overall web design community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if you&#8217;ll re-read the earlier posts in the <a href="http://www.cre8asiteforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=54670&#038;hl=">Cre8asiteforums thread on that topic</a>, you&#8217;ll very quickly see my opinion on the issue&#8230;</p>
<p>On the other question&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;- most designers are focused on <em>design</em>. When it comes right down to it, they aren&#8217;t thinking about these issues or they don&#8217;t care. I don&#8217;t think it has as much to do with intent as it does with ignorance. </p>
<p>As much as web standards and accessibility have a much higher profile now than they did in the earlier days of the Internet, it&#8217;s still a relatively small area of the overall web design&nbsp;community.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/08/lack-of-access-barrier-to-access/#comment-21708</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 09:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Joe, you mirror my thoughts exactly. Why do you think designers fail with this issue? Is it down to time, having to quote at the low end to secure the contract or simply not understand SEO fundamentals.

I also wonder what your thoughts are on designers adding a hyperlinking logo to clients websites, without permission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Joe, you mirror my thoughts exactly. Why do you think designers fail with this issue? Is it down to time, having to quote at the low end to secure the contract or simply not understand SEO fundamentals.</p>
<p>I also wonder what your thoughts are on designers adding a hyperlinking logo to clients websites, without&nbsp;permission.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Dolson</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/08/lack-of-access-barrier-to-access/#comment-21171</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Dolson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly. At the bare minimum, web developers should have a thorough understanding of &lt;a href="http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/05/search-engine-friendly-vs-search-engine-optimized/"&gt;search engine friendly design&lt;/a&gt;.  Any developer should know how a search engine is going to approach, navigate, and comprehend the sites they develop. 

Do they need to be capable of doing link building, managing PPC campaigns, or analyzing statistics to find marketing opportunities ? No, not really. But they should definitely be capable of developing a site which is well set-up for the implementation of these processes.

Thanks for the question!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly. At the bare minimum, web developers should have a thorough understanding of <a href="http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/05/search-engine-friendly-vs-search-engine-optimized/">search engine friendly design</a>.  Any developer should know how a search engine is going to approach, navigate, and comprehend the sites they develop. </p>
<p>Do they need to be capable of doing link building, managing PPC campaigns, or analyzing statistics to find marketing opportunities ? No, not really. But they should definitely be capable of developing a site which is well set-up for the implementation of these processes.</p>
<p>Thanks for the&nbsp;question!</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/08/lack-of-access-barrier-to-access/#comment-21168</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A general question

Do you think a web developers should have a better understanding of SEO, thus providing their clients with a more rounded product?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A general question</p>
<p>Do you think a web developers should have a better understanding of SEO, thus providing their clients with a more rounded&nbsp;product?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Dolson Accessible Web Design &#124; Misunderstanding Accessible Design</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/08/lack-of-access-barrier-to-access/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Dolson Accessible Web Design &#124; Misunderstanding Accessible Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is, practically speaking, the exact same discussion as my last post, but applied to a specific technology. Using CSS isn&#8217;t superior or &#8220;accessible&#8221; in any particular sense unless the underlying HTML has been well-structured. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] This is, practically speaking, the exact same discussion as my last post, but applied to a specific technology. Using <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</acronym> isn&#8217;t superior or &#8220;accessible&#8221; in any particular sense unless the underlying <acronym title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</acronym> has been well-structured.&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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