Comments on: Internet Explorer 7: Irritation of the Day http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/ Tips and Commentary on Accessibility (and not always on topic.) Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:15:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Graham http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-23957 Graham Tue, 06 May 2008 22:30:15 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-23957 Actually the bloop is from the information bar sound, which nearly blews my ear drums apart while listening to music... maybe a claim against MS for induced deafness. I am hard of hearing and if I thought it was loud, well I dread to think what 'normal' peoples hearing suffers like. Clicks aren't so much a problem although to be honest, if I don't know I've clicked on something, maybe I shouldn't be operating a computer. As for getting rid of IE7, not much point as all that happens is it gets IE6 substituted. I usually use Opera anyway. Far more civilised and definately THE browser to use Actually the bloop is from the information bar sound, which nearly blews my ear drums apart while listening to music… maybe a claim against MS for induced deafness. I am hard of hearing and if I thought it was loud, well I dread to think what ‘normal’ peoples hearing suffers like.

Clicks aren’t so much a problem although to be honest, if I don’t know I’ve clicked on something, maybe I shouldn’t be operating a computer. As for getting rid of IE7, not much point as all that happens is it gets IE6 substituted. I usually use Opera anyway. Far more civilised and definately THE browser to use

]]> By: Joe Dolson http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-23296 Joe Dolson Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:02:49 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-23296 <blockquote> The person I finally talked to told me it couldn’t be done after consulting a number of times with other people around him. </blockquote> Wow. Simply speaking, wow. An interface that can't be customized even to that trivial level, in this day and age? That's really incredibly stupid. I have to admit that my usage of IE7 is so low that I've never given any thought to customizing the interface. I don't honestly <em>care</em> what the interface is like --- I just have to have the product available for my work. But that's utterly shocking. One thing I'll say, though --- you say that IE7 went away peaceably when you uninstalled it. On that point, <em>you were lucky</em>. I didn't have any such luck on one computer where I had "temporarily" installed IE7. Instead, it refused to uninstall at all and left me with an IE7 which crashed everytime I attempted to close it. Granted, not the worst time to crash, since obviously I no longer needed it at that point, but <em>incredibly</em> irritating! Thanks for your comments. (Or should I say, for your <strong>rant</strong>?)

The person I finally talked to told me it couldn’t be done after consulting a number of times with other people around him.

Wow. Simply speaking, wow. An interface that can’t be customized even to that trivial level, in this day and age? That’s really incredibly stupid. I have to admit that my usage of IE7 is so low that I’ve never given any thought to customizing the interface. I don’t honestly care what the interface is like — - I just have to have the product available for my work.

But that’s utterly shocking.

One thing I’ll say, though — - you say that IE7 went away peaceably when you uninstalled it. On that point, you were lucky. I didn’t have any such luck on one computer where I had “temporarily” installed IE7. Instead, it refused to uninstall at all and left me with an IE7 which crashed everytime I attempted to close it. Granted, not the worst time to crash, since obviously I no longer needed it at that point, but incredibly irritating!

Thanks for your comments. (Or should I say, for your rant?)

]]> By: Jeff Waymack http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-23295 Jeff Waymack Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:54:34 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-23295 While I hadn't gotten to worring about clicks yet, my complaint deals with changes in the interface. Microsoft set up IE7 so that it uses up three (3) bars worth on screen space at the top of my screen. I called Microsoft (another problem) and tried to get help combining these bars into at least two bars (I prefer 1 bar ideally). The person I finally talked to told me it couldn't be done after consulting a number of times with other people around him. So, what I'm left with is an interface that has less flexibility than the previous version, IE6 where you could combine different elements to reduce the clutter at the top of your screen. So far, IE7 seems to be another software case of 2 steps forward and one step backward. The other issue related to IE7 is the GREAT difficulty I had and getting help in trying to change the interface. If you go to the apparent Microsoft master support page for IE7 (I was sent there by an earlier tech MS support person) there is one option called "Find Help, Get Answers" which when you click on it returns you to the same page. There is also an extremely limited FAQ that can be found by other means (searching). The statement that eventually incurred my wrath is on the same forementioned page that says "Call our support number and get the answers you need to get you browsing with Internet Explorer 7 quickly and easily. Support number: 1-866-234-6020". When you call this number you will be told that this is for support ONLY for downloading and installation problems. Things like dealing with the new interface (and I assume everyting else) are not available through that number. Perhaps like some of you, I am an avid manual reader and have no problem reading help and FAQ online sources. But in this case, none of these exist. Not only did I search for such help (you always get the same useless page mentioned above), but not of the MANY MS ech support people I called could not direct me to any help source. Sound similar to getting help on "Click"? Finally, I uninstalled IE7 by going to Add/Remove Programs under the Control Panel. IE7 went away quite peaceably and IE6 reappeared just as I had left it before I made the poor decision to try and use software with out waiting 2 years for all the bugs to work out. I am puzzled by reports of people not knowing how to get rid of IE7, but then maybe that information was not provided through in the only MS Support number provided. Jeff Waymack ASPEN Computer Graphics While I hadn’t gotten to worring about clicks yet, my complaint deals with changes in the interface. Microsoft set up IE7 so that it uses up three (3) bars worth on screen space at the top of my screen. I called Microsoft (another problem) and tried to get help combining these bars into at least two bars (I prefer 1 bar ideally). The person I finally talked to told me it couldn’t be done after consulting a number of times with other people around him. So, what I’m left with is an interface that has less flexibility than the previous version, IE6 where you could combine different elements to reduce the clutter at the top of your screen. So far, IE7 seems to be another software case of 2 steps forward and one step backward.

The other issue related to IE7 is the GREAT difficulty I had and getting help in trying to change the interface. If you go to the apparent Microsoft master support page for IE7 (I was sent there by an earlier tech MS support person) there is one option called “Find Help, Get Answers” which when you click on it returns you to the same page. There is also an extremely limited FAQ that can be found by other means (searching). The statement that eventually incurred my wrath is on the same forementioned page that says “Call our support number and get the answers you need to get you browsing with Internet Explorer 7 quickly and easily. Support number: 1-866-234-6020”. When you call this number you will be told that this is for support ONLY for downloading and installation problems. Things like dealing with the new interface (and I assume everyting else) are not available through that number.

Perhaps like some of you, I am an avid manual reader and have no problem reading help and FAQ online sources. But in this case, none of these exist. Not only did I search for such help (you always get the same useless page mentioned above), but not of the MANY MS ech support people I called could not direct me to any help source. Sound similar to getting help on “Click”?

Finally, I uninstalled IE7 by going to Add/Remove Programs under the Control Panel. IE7 went away quite peaceably and IE6 reappeared just as I had left it before I made the poor decision to try and use software with out waiting 2 years for all the bugs to work out. I am puzzled by reports of people not knowing how to get rid of IE7, but then maybe that information was not provided through in the only MS Support number provided.

Jeff Waymack
ASPEN Computer Graphics

]]> By: Joe Dolson http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-23278 Joe Dolson Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:35:25 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-23278 You're lucky...I spent more than just ONE day getting pissed off at it! You’re lucky…I spent more than just ONE day getting pissed off at it!

]]> By: Carey http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-23277 Carey Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:41:52 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-23277 Thank you!!! I've spent the whole day getting more and more angry at the damn clicking. If firefox didn't have a memory link that slows down my computer considerably (and I get tired of closing it and reopening it), I wouldn't have to ever use IE. I would have quit using IE 7 if I couldn't turn of the clicking. I know it's a small thing but it's so annoying!! Thank you!!! I’ve spent the whole day getting more and more angry at the damn clicking. If firefox didn’t have a memory link that slows down my computer considerably (and I get tired of closing it and reopening it), I wouldn’t have to ever use IE. I would have quit using IE 7 if I couldn’t turn of the clicking. I know it’s a small thing but it’s so annoying!!

]]> By: Joe Dolson http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-23275 Joe Dolson Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:03:18 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-23275 Glad to help! Anything to fight back against unwanted system intrusions... "Windows Updates: Another way of saying 'Virus!'" Glad to help! Anything to fight back against unwanted system intrusions…

“Windows Updates: Another way of saying ‘Virus!’”

]]> By: Rob http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-23271 Rob Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:36:09 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-23271 Thanks for posting this. It was highly offensive of the IE7 install to turn this on against my wishes. Thanks for posting this. It was highly offensive of the IE7 install to turn this on against my wishes.

]]> By: Joe Dolson http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-19831 Joe Dolson Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:49:57 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-19831 The time delay happened to me, too...very weird. There's nothing worse than software which automatically changes settings on your PC without warning... I know what you mean about "2nd class netizens" --- although I think Firefox is extremely viable now. I almost never need to open Internet Explorer anymore. The time delay happened to me, too…very weird. There’s nothing worse than software which automatically changes settings on your PC without warning…

I know what you mean about “2nd class netizens” — - although I think Firefox is extremely viable now. I almost never need to open Internet Explorer anymore.

]]> By: Katlss http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-19830 Katlss Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:46:37 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-19830 Thanks for the simple instructions. I thought my HP laptop was goofing up, especially when there was a time delay between the click and the sound. No sound is the way to go. Thanks again. I also have Safari and Firefox on my PC, but sometimes they are treated like 2nd class netizens by web developers and not everything works not b/c of the browser, but b/c the developers have to build to the most popular. I think Firefox is taking over in that spot, and that would be good. Thanks for the simple instructions. I thought my HP laptop was goofing up, especially when there was a time delay between the click and the sound. No sound is the way to go. Thanks again. I also have Safari and Firefox on my PC, but sometimes they are treated like 2nd class netizens by web developers and not everything works not b/c of the browser, but b/c the developers have to build to the most popular. I think Firefox is taking over in that spot, and that would be good.

]]> By: Ann Ivanson http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-19283 Ann Ivanson Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:34:14 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/internet-explorer-7-irritation-of-the-day/#comment-19283 Ahhhh...peace at last! Thank you so much, Joe. :) Ahhhh…peace at last! Thank you so much, Joe. :)

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