Comments on: Beyond Validation http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/ Tips and Commentary on Web Accessibility, Usability, and Search Marketing best practices. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:07:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Berita Harian http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/comment-page-1/#comment-32554 Berita Harian Mon, 19 Oct 2009 03:37:45 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-32554 I gave up coding because of this validation thing. I seems to stuck in a hole finding the answers to my wrong-coding. :) I gave up coding because of this validation thing. I seems to stuck in a hole finding the answers to my wrong-coding. :)

]]> By: Joe Dolson http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/comment-page-1/#comment-29803 Joe Dolson Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:57:53 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-29803 Although I don't personally support the use of tables for layout, the actual impact of using them is a fairly complex answer. In general, it's not whether or not you're using tables; it's how you've applied them in the specific layout. They can cause problems, but it's not a problem which is inherent in the fact of using a table. I wrote on this pretty extensively in <a href="http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/08/tables-or-css-layout/" rel="nofollow">Tables or CSS Layout?</a>. Read that article for a more elaborate examination. Although I don’t personally support the use of tables for layout, the actual impact of using them is a fairly complex answer. In general, it’s not whether or not you’re using tables; it’s how you’ve applied them in the specific layout. They can cause problems, but it’s not a problem which is inherent in the fact of using a table.

I wrote on this pretty extensively in Tables or CSS Layout?. Read that article for a more elaborate examination.

]]> By: Abdulrehman http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/comment-page-1/#comment-29797 Abdulrehman Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:35:38 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-29797 Great Article, this reminds me that I have to get my code verified as well. I'm embarrassed but yeah I made my blog's layout on tables but my question is that if I fix all other errors, does it still really make a big difference? Great Article, this reminds me that I have to get my code verified as well. I’m embarrassed but yeah I made my blog’s layout on tables but my question is that if I fix all other errors, does it still really make a big difference?

]]> By: Frank Meyer http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/comment-page-1/#comment-22586 Frank Meyer Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:22:57 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-22586 Interesting article with good points Frank Interesting article with good points

Frank

]]> By: Importance of Validation http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/comment-page-1/#comment-12240 Importance of Validation Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:23:04 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-12240 [...] of Validation Here's a few good articles on the subject Validation alone is not enough Beyond Validation and a quote [...] […] of Validation Here’s a few good articles on the subject Validation alone is not enough Beyond Validation and a quote […]

]]> By: TedGoas.com - » Creating Websites with Web Standards In Mind, Sometimes http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/comment-page-1/#comment-11556 TedGoas.com - » Creating Websites with Web Standards In Mind, Sometimes Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:44:22 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-11556 [...] Joe Dolson does a good job of explaining both of these scenarios in more detail. These standards have been around for years; those in the web community have had ample time to get their act together. The overall trend reveals that web developers just don’t care enough to adhere to these standard recommendations set forth. (The study I refer to was personally conducted as part of a graduate research thesis.) [...] […] Joe Dolson does a good job of explaining both of these scenarios in more detail. These standards have been around for years; those in the web community have had ample time to get their act together. The overall trend reveals that web developers just don’t care enough to adhere to these standard recommendations set forth. (The study I refer to was personally conducted as part of a graduate research thesis.) […]

]]> By: Jermayn Parker http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/comment-page-1/#comment-10538 Jermayn Parker Fri, 02 Mar 2007 06:25:05 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-10538 A List Apart released an article that talks about the power of validation etc http://www.alistapart.com/articles/whereourstandardswentwrong A List Apart released an article that talks about the power of validation etc
 http://www.alistapart.com/articles/whereourstandardswentwrong

]]> By: Joe Dolson http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/comment-page-1/#comment-10377 Joe Dolson Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:00:12 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-10377 Ah, comments...no, I didn't get around to that... Another time! :) Ah, comments…no, I didn’t get around to that…

Another time! :)

]]> By: Jermayn Parker http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/comment-page-1/#comment-10329 Jermayn Parker Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:22:43 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-10329 Yeah Its not easy but it is a good learning curve especially for clients and customers in the future. because if you can 'sell' these practices to people stuck in their old ways, you will be able to do it to customers and clients who do not have a clue. BTW thanks for reading my posts (didn't see any comments though :P ) Yeah Its not easy but it is a good learning curve especially for clients and customers in the future. because if you can ‘sell’ these practices to people stuck in their old ways, you will be able to do it to customers and clients who do not have a clue.

BTW thanks for reading my posts (didn’t see any comments though :P )

]]> By: Joe Dolson http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/comment-page-1/#comment-10265 Joe Dolson Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:49:14 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-10265 It looks like you're in a bit of an awkward situation, Jermayn! (I read a few of your other posts, as well.) It can be difficult being in a place where you, as the junior developer, are trying to implement modern, standards-based ideas when all the senior developers are stuck in the late 1990's. My advice: deal with it and move on. The experience will be valuable to you regardless of whether you're able to guide the project on the best possible path. As to your article, you're right - specific doctypes make a huge difference. That's one of the key points to this article, itself. Thanks! It looks like you’re in a bit of an awkward situation, Jermayn! (I read a few of your other posts, as well.) It can be difficult being in a place where you, as the junior developer, are trying to implement modern, standards-based ideas when all the senior developers are stuck in the late 1990’s. My advice: deal with it and move on. The experience will be valuable to you regardless of whether you’re able to guide the project on the best possible path.

As to your article, you’re right - specific doctypes make a huge difference. That’s one of the key points to this article, itself. Thanks!

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