Comments on: Beyond Validation http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/ Tips and Commentary on Web Accessibility, Usability, and Search Marketing best practices. Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:11:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Frank Meyer http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-22586 Frank Meyer Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:22:57 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-22586 Interesting article with good points Frank Interesting article with good points Frank

]]> By: Importance of Validation http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-12240 Importance of Validation Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:23:04 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-12240 [...] of Validation Here's a few good articles on the subject Validation alone is not enough Beyond Validation and a quote [...] […] of Validation Here’s a few good articles on the subject Validation alone is not enough Beyond Validation and a quote […]

]]> By: TedGoas.com - » Creating Websites with Web Standards In Mind, Sometimes http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-11556 TedGoas.com - » Creating Websites with Web Standards In Mind, Sometimes Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:44:22 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-11556 [...] Joe Dolson does a good job of explaining both of these scenarios in more detail. These standards have been around for years; those in the web community have had ample time to get their act together. The overall trend reveals that web developers just don’t care enough to adhere to these standard recommendations set forth. (The study I refer to was personally conducted as part of a graduate research thesis.) [...] […] Joe Dolson does a good job of explaining both of these scenarios in more detail. These standards have been around for years; those in the web community have had ample time to get their act together. The overall trend reveals that web developers just don’t care enough to adhere to these standard recommendations set forth. (The study I refer to was personally conducted as part of a graduate research thesis.) […]

]]> By: Jermayn Parker http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-10538 Jermayn Parker Fri, 02 Mar 2007 06:25:05 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-10538 A List Apart released an article that talks about the power of validation etc http://www.alistapart.com/articles/whereourstandardswentwrong A List Apart released an article that talks about the power of validation etc http://www.alistapart.com/articles/whereourstandardswentwrong

]]> By: Joe Dolson http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-10377 Joe Dolson Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:00:12 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-10377 Ah, comments...no, I didn't get around to that... Another time! :) Ah, comments…no, I didn’t get around to that…

Another time! :)

]]> By: Jermayn Parker http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-10329 Jermayn Parker Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:22:43 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-10329 Yeah Its not easy but it is a good learning curve especially for clients and customers in the future. because if you can 'sell' these practices to people stuck in their old ways, you will be able to do it to customers and clients who do not have a clue. BTW thanks for reading my posts (didn't see any comments though :P ) Yeah Its not easy but it is a good learning curve especially for clients and customers in the future. because if you can ‘sell’ these practices to people stuck in their old ways, you will be able to do it to customers and clients who do not have a clue.

BTW thanks for reading my posts (didn’t see any comments though :P )

]]> By: Joe Dolson http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-10265 Joe Dolson Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:49:14 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-10265 It looks like you're in a bit of an awkward situation, Jermayn! (I read a few of your other posts, as well.) It can be difficult being in a place where you, as the junior developer, are trying to implement modern, standards-based ideas when all the senior developers are stuck in the late 1990's. My advice: deal with it and move on. The experience will be valuable to you regardless of whether you're able to guide the project on the best possible path. As to your article, you're right - specific doctypes make a huge difference. That's one of the key points to this article, itself. Thanks! It looks like you’re in a bit of an awkward situation, Jermayn! (I read a few of your other posts, as well.) It can be difficult being in a place where you, as the junior developer, are trying to implement modern, standards-based ideas when all the senior developers are stuck in the late 1990’s. My advice: deal with it and move on. The experience will be valuable to you regardless of whether you’re able to guide the project on the best possible path.

As to your article, you’re right - specific doctypes make a huge difference. That’s one of the key points to this article, itself. Thanks!

]]> By: Jermayn Parker http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-10159 Jermayn Parker Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:28:39 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-10159 I have also like Aiden just posted a similar post about validation, titled "<a href="http://germworks.net/blog/2007/02/23/different-doctypes-and-do-they-matter-for-standards/">Different Doctypes and Do They Matter for Standards?</a> Reason I posted about it is because I am in the middle of placing content in a new government designed website that uses a transitional doctype and has been sold by the original creators as AAA accessible. I have also like Aiden just posted a similar post about validation, titled “Different Doctypes and Do They Matter for Standards?

Reason I posted about it is because I am in the middle of placing content in a new government designed website that uses a transitional doctype and has been sold by the original creators as AAA accessible.

]]> By: Joe Dolson http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-9595 Joe Dolson Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:29:48 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-9595 Well, that's interesting, Aiden. Unfortunately, you do seem to have missed my point entirely. I didn't claim in any way that validation wasn't <em>important</em>, as you're saying in your article. I stated that validation isn't the most critical, most valuable part of website development you can focus on. I've never said in any way that a page shouldn't make a point to validate - it simply shouldn't interpret that validation as any kind of indicator that they've accomplished the job of creating a high-quality web page. Well, that’s interesting, Aiden. Unfortunately, you do seem to have missed my point entirely. I didn’t claim in any way that validation wasn’t important, as you’re saying in your article. I stated that validation isn’t the most critical, most valuable part of website development you can focus on.

I’ve never said in any way that a page shouldn’t make a point to validate - it simply shouldn’t interpret that validation as any kind of indicator that they’ve accomplished the job of creating a high-quality web page.

]]> By: Aiden http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-9589 Aiden Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:57:03 +0000 http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2007/01/beyond-validation/#comment-9589 I just wrote up a post about validation myself, along with a look at the Top 50 on Alexa and their results on validation. Take a peek, it's pretty interesting. <a href="http://www.thesleepingpoint.com/article.php?id=8" rel="nofollow">Validation, What Is It Good For?</a> I just wrote up a post about validation myself, along with a look at the Top 50 on Alexa and their results on validation. Take a peek, it’s pretty interesting.

Validation, What Is It Good For?

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