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		<title>By: Rita</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2008/04/guide-to-semantic-html/comment-page-1/#comment-34706</link>
		<dc:creator>Rita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 16:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, a site that gives an understandable definition of semantic in relation to HTML.  Thank you for clearing up the question in my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, a site that gives an understandable definition of semantic in relation to <abbr title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</abbr>.  Thank you for clearing up the question in my&nbsp;mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Grant</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2008/04/guide-to-semantic-html/comment-page-1/#comment-30762</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and I also like the semantic graph tool. Would be nice if it could output in a JPG or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and I also like the semantic graph tool. Would be nice if it could output in a JPG or something like&nbsp;that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Grant</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2008/04/guide-to-semantic-html/comment-page-1/#comment-30761</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice quick overview of the elements. I am aiming at providing a little more detailed insight into best practices and will be covering each tag and what I have seen people do and not do with it. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://flexewebs.com/semantix&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Semantic User Interfaces - The Best Practices&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice quick overview of the elements. I am aiming at providing a little more detailed insight into best practices and will be covering each tag and what I have seen people do and not do with&nbsp;it. </p>
<p><a href="http://flexewebs.com/semantix" rel="nofollow">Semantic User Interfaces - The Best&nbsp;Practices</a></p>
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		<title>By: dani</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2008/04/guide-to-semantic-html/comment-page-1/#comment-30612</link>
		<dc:creator>dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That pragmatism, sometimes simple is not easier. Thanks, Joe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That pragmatism, sometimes simple is not easier. Thanks,&nbsp;Joe.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Dolson</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2008/04/guide-to-semantic-html/comment-page-1/#comment-30598</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Dolson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In normal language, that means that the page contains no content which is a child of &lt;em&gt;only&lt;/em&gt; that &lt;code&gt;div&lt;/code&gt;. On this page it&#039;s the &lt;code&gt;div&lt;/code&gt; with the id &quot;outer.&quot;

This div is there purely for visual purposes, and as such is non-semantic. However, within the limitations of HTML and CSS, sometimes that&#039;s a valid choice. The challenge is over &lt;em&gt;how many&lt;/em&gt; extra nested elements continue to be reasonable and valid. One is really just fine, in my view -- a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/keep-it-simple-stupid/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;simple page structure&lt;/a&gt; is pretty effectively retained using the odd extra element for formatting. 

The resolution is simply a matter of accepting a pragmatic perspective on semantic use of elements - sometimes there are design choices which are not available to you without introducing some degree of extra markup. The balance between pragmatism versus semantics is personal choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In normal language, that means that the page contains no content which is a child of <em>only</em> that <code>div</code>. On this page it&#8217;s the <code>div</code> with the id&nbsp;&#8220;outer.&#8221;</p>
<p>This div is there purely for visual purposes, and as such is non-semantic. However, within the limitations of <abbr title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</abbr> and <abbr title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</abbr>, sometimes that&#8217;s a valid choice. The challenge is over <em>how many</em> extra nested elements continue to be reasonable and valid. One is really just fine, in my view&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;a <a href="http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/09/keep-it-simple-stupid/" rel="nofollow">simple page structure</a> is pretty effectively retained using the odd extra element for&nbsp;formatting. </p>
<p>The resolution is simply a matter of accepting a pragmatic perspective on semantic use of elements - sometimes there are design choices which are not available to you without introducing some degree of extra markup. The balance between pragmatism versus semantics is personal&nbsp;choice.</p>
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		<title>By: dani</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2008/04/guide-to-semantic-html/comment-page-1/#comment-30592</link>
		<dc:creator>dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,
based on W3C semantic data extractor, this page/post has: &lt;q&gt;1 &lt;code&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/code&gt; with no additional content to their unique child&lt;/q&gt;
which &lt;code&gt;div&lt;/code&gt; is it? do you need to fix it? how to resolve it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,<br />
based on <abbr title="World Wide Web Consortium">W3C</abbr> semantic data extractor, this page/post has: <q>1 <code>&lt;div&gt;</code> with no additional content to their unique child</q><br />
which <code>div</code> is it? do you need to fix it? how to resolve&nbsp;it?</p>
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		<title>By: Computer Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2008/04/guide-to-semantic-html/comment-page-1/#comment-29583</link>
		<dc:creator>Computer Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice guide to Semantic use of HTML elements.  I am a big fan of clean HTML practices.  I like to see websites that are well written using basic HTML and CSS.  Since the invention of the blog and PHP things have gotten a little messy on the average site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice guide to Semantic use of <abbr title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</abbr> elements.  I am a big fan of clean <abbr title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</abbr> practices.  I like to see websites that are well written using basic <abbr title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</abbr> and <abbr title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</abbr>.  Since the invention of the blog and <abbr title="Hypertext PreProcessing">PHP</abbr> things have gotten a little messy on the average&nbsp;site.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Dolson</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2008/04/guide-to-semantic-html/comment-page-1/#comment-23988</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Dolson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And people dealing with accessibility tend to use an even greater variety. SEO-focused developers tend to use elements which may be treated as having additional value by search engines; accessible web site developers are concentrating on adding anything which &lt;em&gt;might&lt;/em&gt; be able to provide greater meaning or added value for the disabled.

Similar, but different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And people dealing with accessibility tend to use an even greater variety. SEO-focused developers tend to use elements which may be treated as having additional value by search engines; accessible web site developers are concentrating on adding anything which <em>might</em> be able to provide greater meaning or added value for the&nbsp;disabled.</p>
<p>Similar, but&nbsp;different.</p>
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		<title>By: Paris</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2008/04/guide-to-semantic-html/comment-page-1/#comment-23987</link>
		<dc:creator>Paris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 08:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its amazing how many people only use a mere 20% of all these tags. i mean many times its easier to format a div element than using an h1 element. People dealing with seo thought tend to use more and more a variety of tags since se translate them diferently</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its amazing how many people only use a mere 20% of all these tags. i mean many times its easier to format a div element than using an h1 element. People dealing with seo thought tend to use more and more a variety of tags since se translate them&nbsp;diferently</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Marsh</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2008/04/guide-to-semantic-html/comment-page-1/#comment-23981</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Marsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great reference, great article, thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great reference, great article,&nbsp;thanks</p>
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