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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s Web Transparency: not for everybody.</title>
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		<title>By: Thoughts on Design</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2009/05/obamas-web-transparency-not-for-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-32722</link>
		<dc:creator>Thoughts on Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Two Accessibility Discussions You Need to Follow...&lt;/strong&gt;

There are two good accessibility discussions going on right now, and you need to be following them.  The first is Glenda Watson Hyatt&#039;s Four Parties Contribute to an Accessible Blogosphere. Glenda is pushing for more accessibility in blogging platform...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Two Accessibility Discussions You Need to&nbsp;Follow&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>There are two good accessibility discussions going on right now, and you need to be following them.  The first is Glenda Watson Hyatt&#8217;s Four Parties Contribute to an Accessible Blogosphere. Glenda is pushing for more accessibility in blogging&nbsp;platform&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Dolson</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2009/05/obamas-web-transparency-not-for-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-31315</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Dolson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 14:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments, Jean-Francoise! That&#039;s definitely another good point to touch on, since it&#039;s harmful to any non-visual user of the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, Jean-Francoise! That&#8217;s definitely another good point to touch on, since it&#8217;s harmful to any non-visual user of the&nbsp;site.</p>
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		<title>By: Jf Naud</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2009/05/obamas-web-transparency-not-for-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-31313</link>
		<dc:creator>Jf Naud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 12:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I&#039;ve done almost the same &lt;a href=&quot;http://lewebaccessible.com/articles/whitehouse-gov-audit-de-l-accueil-du-site-web-de-la-maison-blanche.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;analysis on whitehouse.gov&lt;/a&gt; a few weeks ago.

Yet, I have added a very bad practise : links are very badly labelled ! Either they have a very unprecise label (&quot;watch the video&quot;, &quot;read this post&quot;, &quot;clicking here&quot;),  either lots of them have the same label but point to different web pages (&quot;learn more...&quot;).

The result is bad (especially for a governmental website).

JF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done almost the same <a href="http://lewebaccessible.com/articles/whitehouse-gov-audit-de-l-accueil-du-site-web-de-la-maison-blanche.html" rel="nofollow">analysis on whitehouse.gov</a> a few weeks&nbsp;ago.</p>
<p>Yet, I have added a very bad practise : links are very badly labelled ! Either they have a very unprecise label (&#8220;watch the video&#8221;, &#8220;read this post&#8221;, &#8220;clicking here&#8221;),  either lots of them have the same label but point to different web pages (&#8220;learn&nbsp;more&#8230;&#8221;).</p>
<p>The result is bad (especially for a governmental&nbsp;website).</p>
<p>JF</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Dolson</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2009/05/obamas-web-transparency-not-for-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-31177</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Dolson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 23:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn&#039;t seen that! (I&#039;m shamefacedly inattentive to podcasts. Do you have a transcript?)

Thanks for the link, Dennis!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t seen that! (I&#8217;m shamefacedly inattentive to podcasts. Do you have a&nbsp;transcript?)</p>
<p>Thanks for the link,&nbsp;Dennis!</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Lembree</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2009/05/obamas-web-transparency-not-for-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-31176</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Lembree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 23:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another fair and insightful article, Joe. I like how you provided suggestions on how to solve particular issues. Also, for those who missed it, Web Axe &lt;a href=&quot;http://webaxe.blogspot.com/2009/03/podcast-69-recoverygov-site-review.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reviewed Recovery.gov&lt;/a&gt; in a podcast a couple months ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another fair and insightful article, Joe. I like how you provided suggestions on how to solve particular issues. Also, for those who missed it, Web Axe <a href="http://webaxe.blogspot.com/2009/03/podcast-69-recoverygov-site-review.html" rel="nofollow">reviewed Recovery.gov</a> in a podcast a couple months&nbsp;ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Dolson</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2009/05/obamas-web-transparency-not-for-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-31174</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Dolson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 18:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments, Jim! Like you, I didn&#039;t conduct a complete investigation of the accessibility flaws - and you&#039;re right, I did miss some things. Nonetheless, in the broader scheme of accessibility problems I would consider both web sites to have accomplished modest accessibility. 

The headings are awkward, certainly - overuse of headings isn&#039;t any better than underuse. Since this problem primarily applies to the home page, however, I downgraded it in severity. 

I think we definitely agree on the overall problem: the accessibility of these two web sites is grossly insufficient. (In re-reading my text, I do have to agree that &quot;actually quite strong&quot; is an overstatement of the accessibility of the site.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, Jim! Like you, I didn&#8217;t conduct a complete investigation of the accessibility flaws - and you&#8217;re right, I did miss some things. Nonetheless, in the broader scheme of accessibility problems I would consider both web sites to have accomplished modest&nbsp;accessibility. </p>
<p>The headings are awkward, certainly - overuse of headings isn&#8217;t any better than underuse. Since this problem primarily applies to the home page, however, I downgraded it in&nbsp;severity. </p>
<p>I think we definitely agree on the overall problem: the accessibility of these two web sites is grossly insufficient. (In re-reading my text, I do have to agree that &#8220;actually quite strong&#8221; is an overstatement of the accessibility of the&nbsp;site.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Thatcher</title>
		<link>http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2009/05/obamas-web-transparency-not-for-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-31173</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Thatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 17:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good work Joe. Thanks for joining what I hope will be a chorus. I have written about both &lt;a href=&quot;http://jimthatcher.com/whitehouse.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;whitehouse.gov&lt;/a&gt; and about &lt;a href=&quot;http://jimthatcher.com/recovery.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recovery.gov&lt;/a&gt;.

I am very disappointed with the administration web site accessibility. These should be models of accessibility. I certainly agree with your comments about keyboard access. And there is a humdinger you overlooked. When you leave the site, like going from whitehouse.gov to recovery.gov, you are presented with a light box exit panel which is near impossible to find with the keyboard. You gotta find it to exit!

But I disagree with you about general accessibility. As discussed in the references above, there are very serious issues. For example, you mentioned headings for reasonable in-page navigation with screen readers. Well http://whitehouse.gov has about 28 headings; most of the text that should be a heading is a heading, but so are most of the links, basically negating the value of headings navigation. And more!
Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good work Joe. Thanks for joining what I hope will be a chorus. I have written about both <a href="http://jimthatcher.com/whitehouse.htm" rel="nofollow">whitehouse.gov</a> and about&nbsp;<a href="http://jimthatcher.com/recovery.htm" rel="nofollow">recovery.gov</a>.</p>
<p>I am very disappointed with the administration web site accessibility. These should be models of accessibility. I certainly agree with your comments about keyboard access. And there is a humdinger you overlooked. When you leave the site, like going from whitehouse.gov to recovery.gov, you are presented with a light box exit panel which is near impossible to find with the keyboard. You gotta find it to&nbsp;exit!</p>
<p>But I disagree with you about general accessibility. As discussed in the references above, there are very serious issues. For example, you mentioned headings for reasonable in-page navigation with screen readers. Well <a href="http://whitehouse.gov" rel="nofollow">http://whitehouse.gov</a> has about 28 headings; most of the text that should be a heading is a heading, but so are most of the links, basically negating the value of headings navigation. And more!<br />
Thanks&nbsp;again!</p>
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